The importance of the building site, location, and actual physical property on which one plans to put up a house can affect the cost of the home.

Show Notes: Discussing the importance of how the building site, location, and actual physical property on which one plans on putting up a house can affect the cost of the home.

Transcript:

Steve Tuma: Generally things that are common is there might be easements power easements you know you your utility company may have a power line underground or above ground where they have a right to go in there within a certain distance and maintain the lines now you would still own it but you can’t generally put build your house underneath you know right next to a power pole.

Interviewer: Hello everybody and thank you for joining us for episode 49 of the panelized Prefab kit home building show with me in studio is the president and founder of Landmark Home and Land Company a Company which has been helping people build their new homes where they want exactly as they want nationwide and around the globe since 1993. Mr. Steve Tuma Steve. How you doing pal?

Steve Tuma: Hey life is good. We’ve got some interesting topics today I was looking at this a little different though maybe a little bit farther out than normal were items that maybe people don’t always
think about.

Interviewer: Yeah, I actually gave you a little time to let you see what I was going to actually ramble on about today instead of surprising you. So like bam, let’s throw him a curve ball. Hopefully, it makes a little bit of a difference. So today we’re going to have Steve explain some of the ups and downs, difficulties, issues, maybe some of the challenges associated with building site restrictions, something that every owner-builder has to contend with at some point in the scope of their project, and yet just another aspect of building that landmark home and land companies become expert in dealing with over the years. So Steve, to start off with, what are some of the common building setbacks owner-builders have to contend and how how can Landmark help jump these hurdles?

Steve Tuma: Well this is kind of interesting because you know there’s a variety of different restrictions on and in some places and yes there are parts in of America where there is not a building department you know so literally you can go have a piece of land dig a hole put a house in there and you know there here you go some of those areas you just go and register say you’re building others literally you dig a hole and start building a house and then there’s areas that are extremely restrictive and how you can use the land drainage situations can you park in the street can you park in the driveway you know there’s a variety of different things now a lot of people think oh some of those restrictions are good some of them think that they’re bad chances are that there’s already restrictions like some people don’t know that they’re already falling in them like in a city you can’t keep cattle in your backyard mm-hmm you don’t think of it when you’re in Manhattan or Chicago or Miami of hey, let me just bring my bovine in the backyard and you know do stuff like that So there their chances are if you’re in a place where there’s a building department there is and then it’s not always building departments. It’s zoning and sometimes it could be title restriction. So I don’t want to make get to get too complicated But with the the basic situation that we run into is some areas don’t have restrictions and some areas are very restrictive whatever the situation is for your land we can work through it to help someone understand what they are generally things that are common is there might be easements power easements you know you your utility company may have a power line underground or above ground where they have a right to go in there within a certain distance and maintain the lines sure now you would still own it but you can’t generally put build your house underneath you know right to a power pole right you know there’ll be situations like that there have been
situations where there’s minimal rights or or maybe a neighbor has a landlocked piece of land and a prior owner has given an easement across your land for them to access it those are generally all in the title you know and you can go through and see that hey the power company has this easement my neighbor has an easement on the land and generally those are all disclosed when you purchase the land so it should be available of what’s there. Then there’s sometimes homeowners or just tighter communities so homeowners associations can go through and you know be unrestricted. They might say hey you have to have earth tone colors you can’t have a neon orange house you can’t put a you can’t paint graphics on your house they may go through and say you can’t have work trucks in the house you can’t park in the for longer than a certain time.

You can’t have certain types of activities on your land, you know, whether it’s agricultural things or you can’t have a you can’t start a machine shop in your garage type of things. But then there’s also different situations that we’ve come in in different communities and different homeowners associations where they want to know and it’s also a zoning and a planning department situation where they want to know the building envelope a sense so if you had a lot that’s a hundred feet by a hundred feet you can’t fill the whole lot with a building you know you’re gonna have building setbacks where you’ve got to be so far from the front and back and say it leaves a certain say it say it leaves a building you know within the building setbacks there’s a 50 by 50 area they may say that of the complete lot square footage you can only have 30% coverage and sure yeah so if you a 10,000 square foot lot you can only cover the lot 3,000 square feet sometimes that’s with the house sometimes that’s a house patio sidewalks driveways and sometimes they do it to keep green space you know is that so then people have yards and they don’t want houses next to it other places that’s done as a result of drainage because they want to know and and in areas where there’s floods or big rains where where the water is gonna run off to they don’t want you filling your backyard with cement because then the the water doesn’t go through cement it drains off into your neighbors sure and then you flood your neighbor out so there’s there’s a there’s a lot of interesting um situations there we’ve also run into them where it kind of becomes a 3d thing it’s not just the the coverage of the land it’s up some communities don’t want you to go build up so that you block the sun into your neighbor’s That just you know, it kind of clogs the feel of the neighborhood You know when everything’s just big and there’s there’s no airflow.

There’s no space for trees. There isn’t space for You know sunlight to come through so they don’t want to create dark neighborhoods now What’s interesting on these these are generally all laid out when you purchase it and not covenants and restrictions homeowners Requirements planning departments of your community. So before you buy the land you can you can have this what’s really cool about it it’s not something where the customer has to calculate that themselves. We can help them to figure out hey what’s the you know what’s the footprint of your house, what’s the footprint of your sidewalk, your driveways and and and things like that. So it’s all stuff we can help them with and the the development of of their land. Sometimes it gets a little more complex and depending on how deep the building and planning department is we might need a civil engineer if they if they need something certified where someone’s doing some extreme calculations to make sure this works. So we’re all set up to get through this. But that’s it’s kind of interesting. It’s kind of stuff that sometimes people look at a neighborhood and say, Oh, this is nice. Look at this. There’s birds in the trees, the sun’s coming through. Well, that’s that’s likely because someone may be made an effort to restrict, you know, to restrict it so that you don’t end up with a big enclosed neighborhood that doesn’t feel like a comfortable place to be. We’ve also run into situations mainly in the Beach communities where houses are close together. So what these have done in some places is they’ve requested that we do designs that show that you can’t look from one home’s window into the neighboring home’s window. So you don’t want your family’s great room looking into your bathroom of the neighbor’s house type of thing. So we’ve done different analysis of this and that. Now the point is there’s all different types of situations we can help the customer get through it. They don’t have to sort out where their window is, you know, where their garage is.

There’s a variety of different situations. I just thought of something else. This isn’t just also land coverage. We’ve run into situations where it’s noise. Where your home cannot emit of more than 75 decibels at the lot line. Wow. So you think about that 75 decibels i think is like a typical conversation. Right. But let’s just say you had a pool there and your pool motor consist has a consistent hum. Right. That could annoy you or your neighbors. Right. Sothere’s different things like that that we can work with and it’s really interesting to see what goes on. And sometimes people would say, hey, what’s the big deal? You know, this is a little weird, but you can kind of understand what where these come through. But like i say, the big thing is, is that we can help people understand what’s going on with their land, and then how to use it and how to work around some of these details. And we’ve done it a lot. So it’s not a big deal for us to find a solution. If you’re building in one of the communities where it’s a tighter restriction, more restrictive to do it the reality is most people’s land. I would say 80 90 percent of the land there’s building setbacks you know so so you might have to be 20 feet off the front line 10 feet off the side and 20 feet off the back and that can vary by community we can work with those occasionally there’s an easement a power line easement an easement for a neighbor’s driveway whatever it is. Generally these things are are pretty simple and we deal with them every day i don’t want to scare people by getting into the deeper kind of rarer situations.

I just want to point out we’ve likely seen your situation so if you’re building in one of these more exclusive communities where there’s a lot of restrictions we probably worked with it before but if you’re working out in the country kind of in land where you know they allow you to do whateveryou want we could still work with you to develop a sensible plan to make sure that your house works well with the land so it’s a variety of different situation historic committees you know agricultural restrictions zoning setbacks planning setbacks building department setbacks easements for utilities we had one family there was a cemetery in their backyard well from way back it was a family farm and there was a little plot just a little like 20 by 20 plot that was a restriction on there because the county had rights to go in and maintain this thing. So every once in a while you get that little curveball whereyou raise your eyebrow and go, i never thought of that one. Well, we’ve run into that as well.

Interviewer: I just thought of something listening to you speak. You know, landmark not only helps customers build their new homes, you guys are good for neighborhood and community relations as well, making sure that people aren’t looking into each other’s bathrooms and stuff like that.

Steve Tuma: Yeah it’s it’s it’s uh we live in a different world and it’s it’s it’s you know it’s just hey do you want to be sitting there on your your you know your your holiday dinner and look at your neighbors uh right you know maybe if you like your neighbors you’ll do that but sometimes you know maybe uh but some people have that concern some people don’t a lot of our projects are out in the country where you know the neighbors the squirrel that runs through the yard every night or whatever it is but the the point is there’s there’s a lot of different situation oh there’s height restrictions. Uh-huh. That’s a call that an 18 foot high building but if you suddenly put that house on the side of a hill and it’s got multiple roof lines how do you calculate the height so some areas will take the average of the four corners now you know sometimes those homes have more than four corners but they’ll take the average of the four corners in relation to the peak the closest peak each one of those corners. But other communities will go through and say the height is based on the average roof height from the eve of the roof to the peak of the roof. The average height there down to the lowest point of the ground. We’ve also had situations, and this is becoming more and more common in Colorado especially, where they’re saying the height of the building is not based on the finished grade. It’s on the existing grade before anyone touched the ground. Okay. So it’s kind of unique. We even had one where the customer went out, got a surveyor and said, hey, this is your existing grade. And the county said, no, that was altered 20 years ago.

Existing grade is somewhere else. So if someone’s in one of those communities where they really get into it, it’s something that we work with upfront the design issue to make sure that the the home fits within the whole overall footprint. It’s kind of unique in situations like that and you know someone might say who cares i own the land let’s do it. Generally these are in very picturesque areas where they don’t want you blocking your neighbor’s view. Sure. Or they don’t want houses roofs peeking way above tree line so it just doesn’t look right in the in the landscape so so it’s kind of uh it’s kind of neat the way some of these communities run through now the example i just gave of you know looking back at grades 20-30 years ago that’s pretty extreme i just want to point out to people that we understand it we’ve worked through this and if they have a piece of land where this is this comes into play we’ve seen it you know we we understand the questions asked the building department maybe a local surveyor has to be brought in because a lot of these situations it’s not just the design it’s the verification at the building site that what’s being done is there so even at that point they would have to have a civil engineer come out and say hey the top of the foundation has to be here for the top of the home to be by the code so it can get pretty intricate but again that stuff that we process that we work to take care of it’s kind of like you know we kind of like everyone probably has a mobile phone. No one knows how they work. They just know they turned it on, put you know put a number in there and do it. We’re kind of the same situation where we can get it taken care of. But the nature of our business is a lot of our customers get involved with it and they enjoy seeing what’s going on with this. It’s kind of unique and someone will say well hey how complex is that? You just put my roof here and dig down. Well doesn’t always work that way because we have to make sure you can still get in your front door. Make sure the out of your garage floor is right make sure your gutters work so that’s that’s the that’s the fun and excitement we’re doing kind of in the back room as I say we’re just kind of working it out and customers may not even realize that that we’re working on those details generally they do because people that buy properties like that I I think just enjoy the uniqueness of their property and kind of enjoy the process of working through it.

Interviewer: Yeah of course now you brought up something just a few minutes ago and then we had talked about it on a previous podcast just a couple days ago, I think, but that’s the issues surrounding building in historic areas and the possibilities of running into speedbumps while you’re building. And some people may go into a neighborhood or buy a property and find out that it’s historic after they’ve bought it or something like that. But can you enlighten us as to the ins and outs of dealing with a home build in a historic district or a historic neighborhood?

Steve Tuma: Yeah, it’s very interesting because historic areas can vary across the country. So generally as you get into the east coast or an oddity is more san Francisco as well, but generally more towards the east coast type of thing it’s a bigger issue where something happened at a certain point or it’s just a historic little town. So some of those can be very restrictive. You know, this is like the neighborhood where George Washington, you know hung out or something or had different activities. So some of them are can be very specific and the in the design of the house that it has to have certain features sure, others will go through and say it has to give the essence of those features but it could be modernized. So certain roof lines certain porches certain windows certain certain materials. I’ve never seen a historic district say you got to build like they did in 1820 you know just materials, you know, there’s different code safety fire issues ventilation issues things like that but that what they’ll want to do is mimic it and generally it’s the exterior only, right? So they’re not gonna say hey build build a master bedroom like back then when people had one shirt you know in your closet was three feet wide and 18 inches deep you know, they’ll allow you to have the amenities of today, it’s more a specific look. So some will get pretty deep to say we want equivalent-looking material. So even though it might be more of a man-made, more modern material, they still want to have a look. So some might say, hey, we want a wood looking siding. It can be made out of cement. They just want it to be that same type of wood.

Interviewer: So it’s keeping with the spirit of the neighborhood more than anything.

Steve Tuma: Right. It’s keeping with the spirit of it. But then we’ve seen others that are very limited in scope. They’re like, well, this was a historic area, and someone might come out and go, well, you can do this under the historic guidelines, or you can’t, or sometimes it’s more of a recommendation. But what we found is that the people that are building in these areas generally enjoy it. They’re moving into this neighborhood because they have a personal passion for it. So i haven’t really seen where these historic guidelines have been restriction. It’s been kind of more of a guideline for the person to make sure that what they’re designing is authentic. Yeah. For the area. So it’s kind of…

Interviewer: And if you’re building, if you actually buy a property in a historic area, you’re probably already aware of, you know, that’s why you’re buying it there. So it’s probably not as big an issue as people might think.

Steve Tuma: Right. You’re probably not going to go into Williamsburg, Virginia and say i want my 1950s palm springs mid-century modern, you know, driving them with my robin egg blue t-bird. You know, it’s just not, you know, people that generally don’t do that. Yeah. You know, usually the historic buffs, they’re kind of into it for what the community is made of.

Interviewer: Yeah, now i want to move on to a real sticky one, and that’s the issue of homeowners associations. And this has been an issue for and i know you’ve dealt with this a lot of course and some are good some are truly difficult to deal with but can Landmark Home and Land Company help to navigate some of those waters regarding working with homeowners associations.

Steve Tuma: Yes yes we can and it’s it’s it’s an interesting situation there because some homeowners associations are simple It’s you know you they just want to know that that home is built of a certain quality so they may or may restrict the architectural design or other features others can get very pretty specific and some of them i think they actually have rules that are nice you know in nicer neighborhoods it doesn’t necessarily mean higher dollar just people where they’re concerned they don’t want ten of the same house in a 50 home community so they want everyone to have a unique looking home so it’s kind of inviting so in some of these cases i think the issue is more that the story’s gotten around about some homeowners associations and some of them are, i’ll say, filled with interesting personalities, but it’s pretty rare that you have one that’s so unique that a customer might say, hey, these people are really being jerks. You know, generally they’ve got a set of guidelines, and you know, since we’re processing this, we understand it, we’re able to navigate what they want. But sometimes what I found, it was kind of funny.

There was a there was one this was 23 years ago and someone went through and their their homeowners associations it wasn’t written properly it said the colors of the home must be natural well that’s pretty vague well what they what this person that wrote it without understanding what they did they took natural as being earth tones mm-hmm so so they had a problem with the color that one of my customers was coming up with and i said well natural i saw a sunset last night that was bright red mm-hmm so sometimes what happens in a situation like that because as far as i know the sun and the sun sets natural it completely complied but the spirit of what they were getting at wasn’t worded right and that that’s how sometimes these go through so if it’s properly written it’ll be clear like you can have horses or you can have two horses on the property or you must have earth tones and they might give examples and you must include the colors on the plan so that people can can review it and then from there you know you you can go through now generally people aren’t wanting to do bright red houses you know they might have like an old barn red you know it’s kind of stylish but it’s it’s kind of a situation where I’ve generally found that the homeowners associations if executed properly. And some of them do have people on the boards with attitudes. If executed properly, they’re really just trying to maintain the continuity of the community to maintain a value and a general real estate value and feel of the community. Every once in a while, you get one that’s odd. But we really haven’t run into one that’s been what I would say unreasonable in 15 or 20 years.

Interviewer: Full of Karen’s is what you’re saying.

Steve Tuma: Yeah, whatever. Whatever you want to call them it’s just just people people that are there the the situation is you do want to have a nice balanced community you know that that’s consistent with the the way that you you want to live and that you see in your in your neighborhood there are communities that there’s a couple counties and like Colorado where it’s kind of a free-for-all and those people enjoy it sure they like the little bit of wild wild west they’re and they’re able to do things. And we can work in those communities as well where it’s kind of everyone just kind of figures it out, I’ll say, there may not be a building department, the county over there might be a building department that’s very stringent, but the design of counties and how they enforce things are different. So each community, I guess you’d say there’s kind of a standard for each community. And some people like the very strict standards because then they don’t have to look over the neighbor’s fence and say hey why do you have an elephant in your backyard you know you could say hey the restriction says no animals or hey you can have two cats and two dogs you know different things like that you know if where if someone wanted to start a wild animal park you probably have to go to a totally different place right so it’s it’s easier with the enforcement on it you know in some places people want different animals they they like the ability to have a home business whether it’s you know an office thing or whether it’s a you know a mechanical shop in the back so i think what what people will find is that it it it gives the opportunity to have the continuity for what the people of the neighborhood want to be so if someone wants to be in a situation where you can’t work on your car in your own driveway they might want to work in a live in a community like that restricts that if they do want to work their car in their own driveway they should find a neighborhood.

Now what’s really interesting is way way back you could put certain restrictions on land that might still be on titles but a lot of those if they’re illegal or whatever have been erased or or in some cases the businesses are there i looked at a property once and said you can’t have a blacksmith shop okay i don’t know how many blacksmiths there are any more you know true blacksmiths i’m sure they’re there but it’s not something where each neighborhood as their own blacksmith and so it’s it’s it’s it’s kind of interesting to see the navigation so people should check that when they when they buy a piece of land to just see if there are homeowners associations that are there and and also is it recorded because sometimes there’ll be these informal things where people say oh there’s homeowners associations but it’s not recorded that could be a double-edged sword because you know people could be pushing rules that aren’t part of the community and other times you want to know you could be standing up for you know complying with a rule that really isn’t there. So so it it should be recorded. It should be on the the the deed, the title work, you know, so you know exactly what these restrictions are and we’re more than happy to if people want to get them on their land to send them to us, we’ll take a look at that we’re not lawyers, but we understand the situation of someone saying, hey, can I raise chickens here? Or can I have two chickens have my own eggs? What’s interesting is some even suburban areas are allowing chickens and beehives. Yeah, that’s interesting. I’ve read about that. Yeah, so it’s kind of sometimes things change just as the community goes, but mainly the situation is the ones that I see are more, you got to have a house of a certain size. They don’t want people putting 7,000 square foot homes up and you put a 600 square foot home up. So generally they want to have a certain architectural feel, a size, and then they want to do things to make sure it’s a quality built home. But it’s just something you have to kind of understand. It’s like kind of going to dinners. Someone might say, hey, I want to listen to music, Well, do you want classical kind of more quiet? Do you want to go to a head-banging metal restaurant, you know type of thing? So kind of same thing you just have to understand what’s going on with with your land, right?

Interviewer: I’m going through my notes here there’s i was going to talk to you about proximity and the issues of neighborhood builds and people’s privacy and but we kind of covered that at the intro, I think really well. So what about natural restrictions? Let’s move on to that. Of course, a homeowner builder will have to deal with whatever mother nature sets in his or her path rocks trees in the wrong place on the property you know things like that is that is that something that Landmark Home and Land Company can can help you sort out what? Do you need to see the property or do you how does that work?

Steve Tuma: Well, it’s kind of interesting because we we’ve we’ve run into situations where people in northern California have redwoods in their yard wow, you know mega trees we’ve run in situations where people have rock outcroppings or a pond or a seasonal drainage or stream. And then another interesting one is people building around Joshua Tree National Park. The Joshua trees are protected in certain plants. There’s also natural restrictions of you can’t really build in certain nesting seasons of raptors. Uh so if you’re if you’re in areas where um say eagles ospreys different different types of animals are you you can’t uh you can’t go and and impeed on them so the so the natural restrictions can can vary we we just ran into one a beautiful property in Colorado where they bought a piece of land and it was explained that there’s a rock out there so i’m like snooping around at google earth looking at stuff i’m like this doesn’t look like a rock this looks like a mega boulder right type of thing and after they sent pictures there there was like a little uh rock ledge right that that kind of restricted some thought oh we could just build around it well yeah how much money do you want to spend removing you know so you take that and you work through it um amazingly in some places with the WUI wildland urban interface for the fire restrictions um some fire departments need us to do a site plan. So a building and zoning department will have a site plan saying hey where’s your house where’s your driveway, are you within building setbacks but a lot of these fire departments in these remote areas you know if there’s a fire call they pull it up and they’re like okay this is a two-acre property there’s a driveway to the right the house is centered in the back but over to the left there’s a bunch of bushes we can’t pass through and there’s big boulders so they can get a plan of action of how they get in so you know that gets into the fire design and in certain areas mainly west coast of make sure a fire truck can get in there so someone you know so they’ll have hammerheads or different things where a fire truck can get in and turn around and come back so some of these things as communities become more aware of the services that they have to provide to their do the people that live there.

Uh, the building department wants to know, you know, do you have a driveway where a fire truck can’t get in because it’s curved, it’s up and down. It’ll bottom out tree overhangs, uh, rocks, you know, what, whatever it may be. So it’s a, it’s, it’s, it’s, you know, a lot of people might say, hey, why is Big Brother doing all this stuff? And I don’t know why they do it. You know, some of it you could see is logical. Some of it, someone may see it as imposing. The bottom line is we understand it so we can work through. Doesn’t have to be a big issue that there’s a big boulder in your yard and you can’t build on it well we just have to reposition the house or the driveway or work with certain things to.. to make sure that it that it works yeah also man hey this is another one certain states have imposed that you must have solar on your house oh really yeah California being one specifically there I shouldn’t say must but generally the energy codes dictate almost 100% of the time that you must have solar to have essentially a net zero house. So your house in theory develops the power it will need over the course of a year. So someone goes through and says, but i live up in Humboldt county, i’m going to cut down this thousand year old tree to have a solar panel. Well, in those cases, you can be, you can work around it and likely they’re not to say, hey, cut down three huge redwoods so that you can put a solar panel and be green. Those redwoods are probably way more green than the solar panels. So there’s a lot of different situations that can work out there. And it’s pretty interesting.

Interviewer: Yeah. It seems to me like it’s just a whole study into itself about building in natural areas like that. Here’s something that’d be important to know when you ‘rebuilding in areas, say, where let’s say city sewer and water supplies are not available on your property at all. I mean, how does Landmark Home and Land Company deal with things like septic systems, water supplies, et cetera? Is that simply a part of the early planning and design phase of the project, or is it dealt with at a later time, or how does that work?

Steve Tuma: Yeah, it can become, it’s best to know all the information up front as much as possible. Generally, if people buy a piece of land, they’ll know if municipal water and or sewage is available. If not, they might have to go to a well. It could be a private well, it could be a community well, or in the case of sewage systems, it could be a septic system or some type of community sewage system. So these are all things that generally work. Now, if it’s a water line, like a municipal water line or sewer line, that’s usually a little more clear cut. People just have to know where the connection is. Because sometimes someone will use the word like, sewer is available. Well, what does that mean? That the main is in front of your lot or it’s a half block away. So available, you got to understand what’s going on there. That can be checked with the public works departments and the same thing with water. Now where septic becomes a little interesting, it depends on the types of soils and the terrain of the land. So generally septic systems, someone will need the soil scientist to go out, take a boring, and then make a recommendations to the type of soils that are there and the type of septic system that’ll work. Now with sewers, it’s pretty clean. A line comes from the sewer main to the house.

It’s pretty clean. A septic will take more area. So depending upon the nature of the land, it may restrict where you put the house. Or we might have to jockey things around. It isn’t as big of a deal as it as it may appear to someone that’s never done it before generally the the soil scientists have an understanding where the house would go but we tell people if you haven’t done let’s let’s kind of get a house design do a site plan and then you know have have the person doing the soil test look at to say hey the house is gonna be here what’s the optimal place for the septic if for some reason it’s really restrictive? You know maybe they’d have to move the house but that’s just something tha tthat you work out i would say nine out of ten tests or 95 out of 100 or go go pretty smooth with without big issues right what they are doing in a lot of places is they’re asking for reserve systems or reserve space if for some reason the the initial system were to fail in the future there there’s another another place to use so septic systems can sometimes like if building on the side of a hill you know generally they’re not in sloped lands you have to have a little flat area so there’s a there’s a lot of stuff that that can be worked out but again we’ve seen it before we understand what needs to be done we can work with their designers to it to get that worked out but that’s all of it that’s it’s also the same situation with electric or even gas you know sometimes people can’t get natural gas piped in so they have to use propane or or it’s an electric house so it’s the same on an understanding where the power line comes in. But you know these are all just typical things in a project. It’s a daily activity for us.

Interviewer: It’s day to day. It’s routine. Yeah. Well interesting. A lot of valuable information today. I always like that when we finish a show and it’s just full of things that I think the listeners are going to benefit from hearing. So there it is. Well thanks again Steve and thanks to all of you for listening to The Panelized Prefab Home Kit Building Show. But before we go Steve, let the listeners know how to find out more about your company Landmark Home and Land Company.

Steve Tuma: The best thing to do is look us upon the website because it’s available anytime on your phone or on your computer. LHLC. Com, that’s basically the initials of Landmark Home and Land Company. LHLC.COM You can also look at the website, look at plans, see videos, comments, and you could put an inquiry through there or if you’d like to just make a call you’ll first talk to Mike at 800-830-9788. You can check us out there. We also have a Facebook page and Instagram page but that’s basically the best thing to do is take a look at the website. The website has a lot of information but we available to talk everyone’s project is different everyone every customer has different concerns about what they like to see in their home and you know maybe they have opinions of how it needs to be built or they’re at a different stage of the process so we’re more than happy to talk in detail with people about you know their overall project and this isn’t necessarily just restricted to if you have land if you’re thinking of building in a year too. And you just want to talk and get some ideas and kind of you know fine-tune the direction and method of moving forward. We’re here to help as well. So we want to help people get their project lined up properly. The work that you do upfront and proper design, understanding of your project, minimize limiting factors. It’s just easier through the actual execution, budgeting and building of the home. So it’s kind of fun and our customers seem to enjoy it. They’ve chosen to build their own home, save the money and control their project. It’s pretty cool.

Interviewer: Well fantastic. Again everyone, you’ve been listening to the Panelized Prefab Kit Home Building Show and Steve’s right, it has been fun as always. So for Steve Tuma and myself, have a great rest of your day and we will see you next time. Thanks Steve.

Steve Tuma: Yeah, thank you. This was fun. It was an interesting one.